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dtalsma
09-24-2008, 11:12 PM
I am new to the Doberman breed after having Collies for so many years. Can anyone tell me about some of the large breeders? ex. House of Hoytt, Kimbertal and Elite dogs by Brittany McKinnon? I have seen their adds for decades and are they bred under the AKC breed standard? Also I am in So. Cal. any direction to a breeder would be great. Thank you
jelly8bean
10-02-2008, 10:23 AM
Good for you looking for a good breeder. I don't know of any, my dobermans have all been rescues. Good luck!
garterman07
10-05-2008, 01:04 PM
im looking for a breeder also, does any one know about a breeder in wisconsin that is reputable?
awesome dobermans
11-24-2008, 06:17 PM
kimbertal and house of hoyt have always been the standard of professionalism in the doberman pinscher world. they definitly have dobermans that meet the standard profile set up by the american kennel club. they are inspected by AKC as well and pass with flying colors. i know many people who have dogs from these kennels and they look awesome and are the real image of european dobermans. some are standard and some are larger then standard but all come from some of europes best bloodlines. watch out for these people who call these breeders greeders. they know nothing about these kennels and only want to paint them black by deformation of their business. look at the kimbertal website and research some of the dogs on their pedigrees at doberman review. com and you will find that they produce and manage some of the best bloodlines in the world. watch out for breeders with only two ot three dogs they have no way of knowing what is in their bloodlines because they have not owned generations and generations of those bloodlines. when someone has command of that knoweldge they are a way better breeder because they know what is going on in their lines. kimbertal has some awesome animals and you would be so satisfied if you purchased a dog from them. incredible animals. i dont like what hoyt produces now but some of his older lines were amazing. both of these kennels have been in business over 30 years. if they were so bad and their dogs were bad they they would not be world renounded like they are. a few friends of mine have kimbertal dogs and their life span was 13 and 14 years. neither of those dogs had any health problems and structurally they were awesome. go for it kimbertal is excellent.
DynamicDuo
12-02-2008, 05:37 PM
I have personal experience with Kimbertal and only have POSITIVE things to say. Their dogs are awesome! I did a years worth of looking into breeders and rescues and decided on Kimbertal. They breed a great looking, sound Dobe. Right now my 2 year old is watching Blues Clues while laying against my 92 lber while she is chewing a bone. It doesn't get any better than that! I wanted a big Dobe, not enormous. She is not oversized, she is stealth and agile but looks like what I want MY Doberman to look like. I personally don't want the smaller American look. The folks at Kimbertal are available 24/7. The don't just print that, they actually are available! I made several calls to get info and went to visit the kennel before I got my pup. They are a nice, clean, well cared for facility. Dogs and pens are well cared for!
After getting my pup, I stayed in contact and have had all of my questions answered, and they help re-tape the ears anytime you want - for FREE - no charge$$$.
The studs have all been tested and are available to see.
I recommend doing some research, to see what you want in a Dobe. This is a great site to get input!
Kimbertalkls
12-16-2008, 03:49 PM
Okay. I think choosing a breeder is a personal choice like choosing a doctor. Some people like a commercial kennel because they have staff available everyday, answer your questions, return your phone calls, have return policies, etc. Some people prefer small show breeders because they are going to show and it is always good to have that guiding hand helping you get a good start. Some people like to get an adult from a rescue because it is a known quantity and the dogs are harder to place and need homes...
Please remember, there are good and bad in all of these. I have gotten dogs from all of these and had good and bad experiences in each category. The best thing to do is check out all your options and decide what is the best for you. Don't rule out an option because of what you have heard. Check it out. I know show breeders who are extremely cordial at home but are busy at the shows and really can be annoyed playing twenty questions right then so maybe even check it out a second time if you are not sure. However, if you leave four messages and do not hear from anyone that may be a head's up.... Good luck. Write, visit, call.
triplecminis
01-05-2009, 08:12 PM
Personally I have raised miniature horses for 15 years and I know the dedication it takes to put into a breeding program like that.... you can have your fly by night breeders who are here today and gone tomorrow and back up nothing!!!!!.... I am not into that... I want to know someone has put years into planning and matching the best of the best and stand behind their program...and I truly felt like Kimbertal showed me that type of dedication ....
Dobelover66
01-05-2009, 09:58 PM
Google some of the mentioned breeders and you will find some interesting information that will help you make the right decision.
tidibole
05-09-2009, 10:15 AM
kimbertal and house of hoyt have always been the standard of professionalism in the doberman pinscher world. they definitly have dobermans that meet the standard profile set up by the american kennel club. they are inspected by AKC as well and pass with flying colors. i know many people who have dogs from these kennels and they look awesome and are the real image of european dobermans. some are standard and some are larger then standard but all come from some of europes best bloodlines. watch out for these people who call these breeders greeders. they know nothing about these kennels and only want to paint them black by deformation of their business. look at the kimbertal website and research some of the dogs on their pedigrees at doberman review. com and you will find that they produce and manage some of the best bloodlines in the world. watch out for breeders with only two ot three dogs they have no way of knowing what is in their bloodlines because they have not owned generations and generations of those bloodlines. when someone has command of that knoweldge they are a way better breeder because they know what is going on in their lines. kimbertal has some awesome animals and you would be so satisfied if you purchased a dog from them. incredible animals. i dont like what hoyt produces now but some of his older lines were amazing. both of these kennels have been in business over 30 years. if they were so bad and their dogs were bad they they would not be world renounded like they are. a few friends of mine have kimbertal dogs and their life span was 13 and 14 years. neither of those dogs had any health problems and structurally they were awesome. go for it kimbertal is excellent.Please read the standard and understand what you are reading before you make a purchase. Many breeders are riding on laurels too many years ago and currently do not conform to the standard. much of this has to do with importation of Euro breeding, etc, a larger than AKC dog and not competitve in the AKC ring. It is necessary to evaluate WHAT you want and what your intentions are to be, this will help you also to determine a breeder that is right for yor needs and or desires!
Dobs4ever
05-09-2009, 10:30 AM
The best place to start your search for a breeder with a good reputation is the DPCA breeder referral program. There you will find breeders who are working hard to preserve, protect and promote our Dobermans. One of the first things that would make me feel a breeder was reputatible is that they are a member of their breed club and support the standard, not go off and do their own thing. When you promote you breed oversized you are openly promoting something that can lead to more hip problems and I have seen some of the puppies produced from this kind of breeding at at 4 to 6 months were already having problems. Do your research and read the good, the bad and the ugly about them and then decide for yourself if you want to go there.
Big Dogs
05-10-2009, 06:28 AM
First and foremost I would decide on what you would like to do with the dog! If he is going to be a family pet, if you want to show him or work him. This will help the breeder and you both make the right choice for your wants. I personally have owned dogs from Hoytt and currently own a kimbertal and both were and are fine dogs. I do not show dogs but I do have working dogs. As others have said do your research and visit the breeder if possible. I always tell people you are making a commitment for at least 10+ years do the research and don't buy on impulse. There are good breeders out there and there are bad ones information is power. See how long they have been in business and if you think the breeders prices are to high ( and some are) compared to what you are seeing in the paper just remember this, a reputable breeder has years invested in there breeding programs there facilities and loads of time to produce what they believe to be a great dog which they will stand behind if you have a problem. NO back yard breeder that's in the Sunday paper is going to do that for you.
Dobs4ever
05-10-2009, 02:23 PM
Very well put Big Dogs. I would also recommend you go to a breeder who actually works or shows their own dogs as they will have a much better idea what the strong points are in their line and are much better at selecting a puppy to fit your personal needs.
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