protection training

[BlueIllusionKennels]

can someone send me in the direction of a reputable protection dog trainer in the san diego, ca area :) thanx

[Kimbertalkls]

I do not know w atrainer in your arae but I will tell you to find one that lets you watch a few classes before you sign up. I have gone out and watched quite a few and some were good but some had the dogs overly aggressive before they did any obedience. I always figured that most people drop out before they are done and I would rather have them drop out with an obedience trained dog with some aggression work than a protection trained dog that has no control on him. I know Schutzhund people divide over this but again watch what they are doing with the dogs.
A good book to read which I have trained a Siberian with to do protection successfully, even though Sibes have no territorial instincts is "The Koehler Method of Guard Dog Training". The nice thing about it is you can stop at any point. You can stop when the dog is aware of people entering the property or take it all the way to where a dog will hold a person at bay but not touch them or move in for a hold and not let go. Thirtyfive years ago before the world was so sue happy my trained kerry blue chased the paper boy three blocks and never touched him as he kept him pinned after the kid chucked yet another glass coke bottle into my yard at the dogs. I am sure the kid went home and changed his pants but not a mark on him. It is a great book. Anne

[magtie]

moved the breeders forum

[awesome dobermans]

sounds great. i just left the schutzhund training grounds this afternoon and the trainer i met with took 4 hours with us today and 4 of my pups. he was very informative and gave me the basics as what to look for in a puppy. you first want to go through obedience and then work their way to schutzhund. the obedience part is the most important so you gain a wonderful control on the puppy through certain techniques. the part of assessing drives was very interesting and actually how we as a people can help a puppies existing drives or help create drives with proper training techniques. i am looking forward to working my dogs with this trainer. i am going to the class training sessions on Saturdays with two of my pups and we are going to watch what goes on for the next month or so. i would love to see some of our pups make a schutzhund three title. the enjoyment would be doing all the work and having the dedication to my pups, and helping them to gain the knoweldge of this sport properly.

[Kimbertalkls]

Geez. I must proof read my posts as typing and brain are definitely different speeds.
It sounds like you found what you are looking for. Do not let others talk you out of what you are comfortable with. My girlfriend webt to a trainer that pumps the dogs up and then teaches obedience to reign it in and after the shepherd popped two back windows out of her car going at passersby her husband made her quit. Sooo, they had a dog who was crated and confined most of the time since she was pumped up so young.
I have not done SchH and do not profess to be knowledgeable in that but know I prefer being around the ones obedienced first and then brought out although many professionals say the opposite. Good luck and post photos when you finish your first dog. Anne

[awesome dobermans]

i will Anne thanks for the comments. you will see the pups Dory and Xiphos. they are so happy and loving with wonderful drives as well.

[Aesa]

can someone send me in the direction of a reputable protection dog trainer in the san diego, ca area :) thanx


you might wanna check ot this forum, Vadim is from San diego and very active in this area. he probably can help you to find what you been looking for. http://usadobermann.proboards.com/index.cgi

[von Cosack Dobermann]

Morning Tina!!!! Hows lil Odessa and the crew???? hmnnnnnnnn seems like this question was from 2008SR time to look at the dates when posted, I'll guess their long answered or long gone!!!! Von

[Aesa]

Good morning VC, yep i saw that after i posted, oh well. I just posted a few new pic's of your favorite girl in her thread and one video :)

[Aesa]

Its the workingdoberman Forum, people what are interessted in SCH or PP or anykind of sport like Mondio ring or french ring, should check this one out. And if you had clicked on the link Janice, you would have find out what it is, heheheehe

[von Cosack Dobermann]

I saw, very nice all these lil pups from 15 months ago have grown quickly and are very strong too. Good food and exercise and training is a great combination for happiness & health. Aesa looks very good and DoUrden I'm sure is very proud but the Odessa von Cosack bitch ..................well what can I say shes a.........................................Bitch!!! !! hahahaha! Von

[Aesa]

I Know VC , Odessa is the best and the biggest bitch of all <HAHAHAHAHA

[von Cosack Dobermann]

Be nice I can give commands all the way across the country, we're very intune you know!!!!! You may not want to sleep tonite unless you keep an eye opened. Shes an Animal!!!!! hahahaha



Tina your on a good schedule as far as her age and were your now at in training but I don't hear much about tracking????? Is it the early morning that SHE doesn't like????? .................or is it Hexe who doesn't like??? Von

[Aesa]

Oh i do tracking with her VC and she comes along very nicely there too, Just when i go track, there isn't someone who would take pic's for me LOL

[von Cosack Dobermann]

Good for you Tina, thats a NEW excuse hahahaha!!!! She should do well at tracking after all she is a very curious girl and is very capable of amusing herself. I wonder if tracking could become boring to her if she doesn't turn it into a challenge game. Lets talk about that as time goes on. My Pena Girl was an incredible tracker but if it wasn't a real situation she could care less.
Von

[Aesa]

Hehehe its not a excuse, but i'm the first one at the club, so i do the tracking and nobody else is there to take pic's. Right now i work hard to get her ready for her BH first ;)

[von Cosack Dobermann]

You need to use different locations, she can be getting comfortable in her areas and if shes doing good add some difficulties and challenge her but make her continue to have success. You know what I mean. Also the dark Red Head should return by fall, ya think???? Von

[Aesa]

You need to use different locations, she can be getting comfortable in her areas and if shes doing good add some difficulties and challenge her but make her continue to have success. You know what I mean. Also the dark Red Head should return by fall, ya think???? Von



We'll see about that, don't know if the red head will return, but you never know :D
I think we wont have much much more longer for tracking, soon it will get to hot again, i sure don't hope so, but will see how long the weather stays like it is right now.

[von Cosack Dobermann]

Up at 5am and a short track just to keep her sharp!!!! and Focussed!! Nite!
Von

[Pitts]

you track all year long, in all conditions, after all, you never know what it will be like on trial day. Have you started teaching her the article indications yet.

[von Cosack Dobermann]

Women don't track on track!!! They pick their spots and if its to hot or cold it "ain't happening"!!!! Forget light rain and snow is a No Go!!! Womens Tracking Rules!!! They've been out there for years & years!!! Von

[Aesa]

Women don't track on track!!! They pick their spots and if its to hot or cold it "ain't happening"!!!! Forget light rain and snow is a No Go!!! Womens Tracking Rules!!! They've been out there for years & years!!! Von

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFF whatever VC, i'm the only one here what will show up at training no matter what weather we have. Its the guys what been whining all the time. reminds, me gotta get ready for training tonight, see ya all tomorrow TATATAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :p

[von Cosack Dobermann]

Didn't mean you Hexe you'll train in Lightening!!!!!! Von

[Aesa]

Didn't mean you Hexe you'll train in Lightening!!!!!! Von

LOL i probably would :D