Report an Irresponsible Breeder

[tessa]

Could someone tell me where to report an irresponsible Doberman breeder?

[Kimbertalkls]

There is no foundation or registry that oversees breeding. The AKC will only step in if the AKC/breeding information on a litter is incorrect. They limit how old or young a sire or dam can be but that is it.
A breed club can only enforce their code of ethics on a member. Thsi si why most posters will tell anyone to do research even though puppies are cute and a real hard thing to "think over".
If the breeder is more than irresponsible and is either dishonest or keeping their animals in an unfit manner then check out the regulations in their state. Most states have puppy lemon laws and kennel licensing procedures that can be enforced. However, talk to the breeder and get both sides of teh story or give them the chance to rectify something as they may think the problem is corrected if they did not hear back. Good luck and be well. Anne

[tessa]

I live in NJ but the breeder is located in PA- I just wanted to get the word out that if anyone is looking to buy a puppy/dog that they should not get one from this particular breeder- Heathers House of Dobes- she is just looking to make money- she dosen't care about the breed, the standards that have been set and she most certainley dosen't care what happens to the dog after she gets her money. If you are looking for an ethical and responsible breeder DO NOT purchase a puppy/dog from this breeder

[Kimbertalkls]

Sorry, swept up in the holiday and did not get on line for a while.
In Pennsylvania you can report her to Dog Law in Harrisburg if there is cruelty or poor conditions. She does not need to be licensed if she has less than 26 dogs on her property in a year's time.
Again, Dog Law will only enforce cleanliness. Breeding for the right reason is different to every person that breeds. This is why some forums end up in nasty cat fights. Everyone thinks they are right with their breeding program,genetic testing, bloodlines, puppy contracts, etc. The ARAs use this against us.
Everyone has a right to breed which is not to say everyone should breed but this is why the buyer should screen the breeder as much as a breeder should screen a buyer. Not everyone wants to deal with a private breeder and their contracts/requirements. Not everyone wants to deal with a pet store or commercial kennel. Both have a right to sell puppies as long as the puppies are healthy, cared for, clean and there is no cruelty involved. I hope you are talking about more than just not liking her breeding practices. Be well. Anne

[triplecminis]

I agree I have read some nasty posts about larger breeders that basically could not be backed up.... it is your responsibility as a buyer to be aware and to understand that even in the best case senerio sometimes things do go wrong.... Give the breeder time to work with you to fix the problem... this is what a good breeder would do... I do not have allot of first hand knowledge about the dobie breeding programs but I do know that a truly ethical breeder who wants a good name and to better the breed will stand behind it's breed...

[triplecminis]

also may I add that I saw so posting about breeders bringing in outside dogs that they had actually not raised....well they presented this in a negative way and I totally disagree.... correct me if I am wrong but.... should you not want to increase the gene pool and if you see a superior stud even if you did not raise it want to use the better stud to make the breed better all the way around????? I may be wrong but I use the same concept with my minis.... I have stallions shipped in to bring to my mares that show the ability to better my over all foal crop.... should you not do the same with puppies????

[MLR]

triplecmins,

I would think that would be the way it should be done. I know it's common practice to breed a parent or grand parent to own pup or grand pup to set a certain trait. That was the case with my male, Hercules. His great grandfather, who was a champion, was bred to his own daughter who produced Hercules' mother. While he is a magnificant looking doberman, I can't help but believe that this lead to his being born with Von Willebrands. After having, now two dogs with this desease, I couldn't agree more with what you said.

Mary Lou

[triplecminis]

I have bred minis for 15 years and will never line breed... I took enough basic genetics to know that you can try to bring out a good trait but also increase a bad one too....Line breeding should only be done by people who really know what they are doing and spend lots of time researching line traits...

[Dobs4ever]

In reporting a irresponsible breeder you will definitely have to have proof not just opinions. Although the breeder you refer to is not considered reputable.

[tidibole]

There is no foundation or registry that oversees breeding. The AKC will only step in if the AKC/breeding information on a litter is incorrect. They limit how old or young a sire or dam can be but that is it.
A breed club can only enforce their code of ethics on a member. Thsi si why most posters will tell anyone to do research even though puppies are cute and a real hard thing to "think over".
If the breeder is more than irresponsible and is either dishonest or keeping their animals in an unfit manner then check out the regulations in their state. Most states have puppy lemon laws and kennel licensing procedures that can be enforced. However, talk to the breeder and get both sides of teh story or give them the chance to rectify something as they may think the problem is corrected if they did not hear back. Good luck and be well. AnneInteresting....That you suggest getting "both sides of the story"!!!!

[tidibole]

I have bred minis for 15 years and will never line breed... I took enough basic genetics to know that you can try to bring out a good trait but also increase a bad one too....Line breeding should only be done by people who really know what they are doing and spend lots of time researching line traits...LINEBREEDING in dogs is apparently different than in horses of any size. Line breeding is generally a safe alternative to an outcsoss or definatley inbreeding...Each has a beneficial value and can only be determined by the breeder after careful evaluation of their stock and what is hoped to be achieved.

[tidibole]

also may i add that i saw so posting about breeders bringing in outside dogs that they had actually not raised....well they presented this in a negative way and i totally disagree.... Correct me if i am wrong but.... Should you not want to increase the gene pool and if you see a superior stud even if you did not raise it want to use the better stud to make the breed better all the way around????? I may be wrong but i use the same concept with my minis.... I have stallions shipped in to bring to my mares that show the ability to better my over all foal crop.... Should you not do the same with puppies????
absolutely correct!!!!!!!!

[tidibole]

triplecmins,

I would think that would be the way it should be done. I know it's common practice to breed a parent or grand parent to own pup or grand pup to set a certain trait. That was the case with my male, Hercules. His great grandfather, who was a champion, was bred to his own daughter who produced Hercules' mother. While he is a magnificant looking doberman, I can't help but believe that this lead to his being born with Von Willebrands. After having, now two dogs with this desease, I couldn't agree more with what you said.

Mary LouPerhaps the testing to determine vWD was not done..I have a male that tested clear...It allows me to breed differently than if I had an affected or carrier...