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Rich S
01-01-2009, 09:04 AM
The other night we took Magnum for a walk, and as always we let him off leash to run around. After about 45 minutes we decided to head home and that's when we noticed blood pooling by his front left paw. At first I thought the bottom of his pad was bleeding but then we saw that his second nail was completely missing.

Once we got him home only then did we start to fully understand just how much blood he was losing. We tried to wrap the wound and add pressure to stop the bleeding, but had not success. After a few more minutes we put him in the car and took him to the emergency vet clinic here in town.

The vet tried wrapping the paw in bandages and within seconds he bled through that. It was at this point the vet mention the possibility of Von Willebrand disease. For those who don't know, it's an inherited bleeding disorder and affects your blood's ability to clot.

The vet tried bandaging for a second and third time, again with the same result. The vet's tone changed at this point and my wife and I both could feel it. By this time Magnum had been bleeding for at least an hour.

The vet told us Magnum would have to spend the night and he would try a number of different methods to get the bleeding to stop. So we went home home.

About an hour later we got a call from the vet saying he finally got the bleeding to stop, and by the way can you come pick him up he seems to have some separation problems (pour baby was missing his mom and dad).

Long story short, after another trip to the vet the following day Magnum is doing better but he did get an infection in the wound and is in quite a bit of pain. The nail was ripped all the way out leaving nothing but a hole. He's on codeine and some meds for the infection. As far as having
Von Willebrand disease, he will be going for blood work.

For all the new dobe owners out there, or every owner for that matter, I strongly encourage you to get blood work done to find out if your dobe has this disease. It is very common in Dobermans. If we didn't have an emergency vet clinic here in Brantford, this could have been a different story.

http://www.dobermanhub.com/health/2009/01/02/what-is-von-willebrand-disease/

jelly8bean
01-01-2009, 10:09 AM
So sorry that Magnum had an accident.. and fingers crossed about the tests. My baby blue (Indigo) gave me a scare on Sunday.. She has realized how tall she is and she reached a bag of hersey kisses off the table and ate the whole thing. When I figured it out (a couple of hours later) she had a swollen stomach. Emergency vet visit said no problem.. the chocolate had made her drink alot of water. Induced vomiting and quick xray for sureity and we went home. They can knot themselves into your heart so quick...

Rich S
01-01-2009, 10:14 AM
So sorry that Magnum had an accident.. and fingers crossed about the tests. My baby blue (Indigo) gave me a scare on Sunday.. She has realized how tall she is and she reached a bag of hersey kisses off the table and ate the whole thing. When I figured it out (a couple of hours later) she had a swollen stomach. Emergency vet visit said no problem.. the chocolate had made her drink alot of water. Induced vomiting and quick xray for sureity and we went home. They can knot themselves into your heart so quick...

Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad to hear your baby is going to be fine and let's hope Indigo hasn't gained a love for chocolate.

magtie
01-01-2009, 10:45 AM
well Magnum got lots of attention at the new years party at least :)

MLR
01-01-2009, 10:50 AM
Hi Rich S,

Sorry to hear about Magnum. I've now had two dogs with Von Willebran disease. One was a dobe/sheppard mix who I didn't find out had it until she was 5 years old. Her's wasn't as bad as my present male full doberman, Hercules. The first one had a white count of between 45 and 55 which, while not good, didn't impede her activities or cause surgical problems. Hercules, on the other hand, has a white count of 11 which is the lowest my vet has ever seen. Having gone through this before I suspected something might be amiss the first time I was cutting his claws as a puppy and accidentally cut into the quick on one nail. He shot blood across the room. The next time this was brought up was when I had his ears cropped. The vet thought then there might be a problem because he bled profusely during surgery. I had to wait, though, until he was six months old to have him tested. Apparently the test isn't done until then because it isn't concllusive before that.

What is Magnums white count?? You need to be mindful that there is a whole list of meds he can't be given, including some anesthetics, but especially never ever give him asprin. Also, no Pepto because it has salicylic acid in it. And watch out for willow bark on trees when your out walking; this has the same ingrediant in it. This can make for internal bleeding and/or cause any cut to bleed profusely. Your vet should be able to give you a print out of the meds he shouldn't ever be given. I'm wondering, too, because you mentioned him throwing up whether something you're already giving him for this might be adding to the problem. (Not saying you are.) If my male gets diarrhea or stomach upsets I can only give him Immodium. When in doubt about any med, even over the counter stuff, check with your vet first before giving it to Magnum. No toys with sharp objects on them or bones either.

The way my vet discribed this to me was that, while Hercules' blood has the ability to clot, he lacked the starting factor.

I guess that is why I tend to baby him a little more, i.e. never pulling, pushing or shoving him when he is on a leash (which made for harder training in the beginning) as I didn't want to bruise him. I think in the back of my mind this is also why I bought the second doberman who doesn't heve this disorder. I was told there is no blood typing for dogs so she could be a potential blood doner for him should the need ever arise. It's too far to the nearest hospital which may, or may, not have plasma on hand if he were ever to get into a serious accident or fight with another dog and need a transfusion.

This is also why I made the decision to have Hercules neutered. Although he is beutiful and would have made an excellant show dog, I couldn't in good conscience breed him.

On a happier note, I met a man once who also had a doberman in the past with this disorder and his dog lived to the age of 15. She did die suddenly from a brain hemmorage, but that is a pretty long life for a doberman. And my other dog who had this made it to 12 years old. Good luck to you and Magnum.

Mary Lou

jelly8bean
01-05-2009, 08:39 AM
Hey Rich.. you didn't say what the results were with your test. Is Magnum ok?

Rich S
01-05-2009, 08:53 AM
He's going for the blood work at some point this week. I'll keep ya posted.