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[Fez04]

Hello my name is david i just purchased a 10 week old dobie. hes blk and rust. i have so much questions but ill snoop around and check to see if my questions have already been answered.. ill post picks after my 15 post lol

[Sue J]

Welcome to the hub David. What's your boy's name?

[magtie]

welcome to the forum :)

[Big Dogs]

David don't worry about asking about something that may have been answered before chances are everyone else forgot the answer to that question anyway. Ask away! and welcome to the forum.

[Rich S]

Welcome David and ____. Big Dogs is right, its fine to ask questions again. You will most likely get different answers.

[Hali'smom]

Good to see you here! Hey, post your butt off ...we wanna see pics!!

[Fez04]

thanks everyone for the welcome, i named him magnum, i think i've been saving that name for over 3 years now.. i liked duke but my dad stole that name for his hunting lab... i guess i had the norm questions seeing how ive owned huskies in the past and those were a lil stubborn but i got lucky they were awesome tell they got stolen.. so i got a dog no one would steal.:p any how just a few simple questions, the first 2 days are the hardest for him i think but hes come out of his shell.. I'm making leash training fun but he just lays down tell i get him excited.. with my huskies they were born leash ready they loved there leash like crack!! but i know his neck isn't strong so i don't tug AT ALL!! i just keep it on him when we go potty so he doesn't run away.. but i read a lil so there goes my question lol.. so for my first question is after he gets bigger and knows the immediate family will he be mean and protective to guest and strangers? also he will be 85% indoors 15% out doors cause i live in central California and its 97* out. but outside for playtime and exploring and training.. but is that good to keep him indoors with me a lot will he get to attached? i just don't want him to run away i have a huge back yard but other dogs get walked in front of my house which get dogs excited and if he gets bored i think hell run away or am i wrong?

sorry so long :)

david & magnum

[OliveOil]

David,
I don't think that bringing him inside and getting him "attached" to you is such a bad thing. Dobermans love to be near their people. Olive likes to romp and run around, but after awhile she's ready to come inside--sometimes I think just to see what I'm doing. We live in South Carolina so it gets HOT here too :) Of all of the other dogs I've ever had, (most have been mutts from the pound) she is the most like a little person. When I get up and go from room to room she follows me if she can't see me where she's laying at.

I keep Olive on a leash when we're outside of a fence too. Not that I don't trust her but people freak out when they see a big black dog running about. People pull their kids behind them at the Petsmart when we go by so I'm sure that they wouldn't care if I had her running around the neighborhood.

As far as being mean and protective...I think there's a big difference in being aware of strangers and being agressive. They should take their cues from you. If you're okay with the person being in your house then they should be too.

Lots of great questions!! We look forward to hearing how Magnum is doing and welcome to the hub.

[Rich S]

thanks everyone for the welcome, i named him magnum, i think i've been saving that name for over 3 years now.. i liked duke but my dad stole that name for his hunting lab... i guess i had the norm questions seeing how ive owned huskies in the past and those were a lil stubborn but i got lucky they were awesome tell they got stolen.. so i got a dog no one would steal.:p any how just a few simple questions, the first 2 days are the hardest for him i think but hes come out of his shell.. I'm making leash training fun but he just lays down tell i get him excited.. with my huskies they were born leash ready they loved there leash like crack!! but i know his neck isn't strong so i don't tug AT ALL!! i just keep it on him when we go potty so he doesn't run away.. but i read a lil so there goes my question lol.. so for my first question is after he gets bigger and knows the immediate family will he be mean and protective to guest and strangers? also he will be 85% indoors 15% out doors cause i live in central California and its 97* out. but outside for playtime and exploring and training.. but is that good to keep him indoors with me a lot will he get to attached? i just don't want him to run away i have a huge back yard but other dogs get walked in front of my house which get dogs excited and if he gets bored i think hell run away or am i wrong?

sorry so long :)

david & magnum


Magnum! What a great name for a Doberman!!!

[Dobs4ever]

Welcome to the Hub and to the wonderful world of Dobermans.

[Fez04]

Magnum! What a great name for a Doberman!!!




i was wait'n for you to say something LOL!! i was like dude!! there's another magnum YAY!! :p

[Dobs4ever]

David - Dobermans are known as the velcro dog so if you are not into attached then you got the wrong breed. They are the only breed specifically bred to work with man so that makes them attached at the hip so to speak. They follow you everywhere including the bathroom. If you move they move.

Doberman are not and should not be mean. With proper training and socialization they are very wonderful dogs and accepting of visitors as they should be. With all the BSL today you do not want a dog that goes after anyone and most breeders have bred most of that out of them. Today their reputation is more a deterient which unfortunatley keeps them on the dangerous dog list.

[tidibole]

thanks everyone for the welcome, i named him magnum, i think i've been saving that name for over 3 years now.. i liked duke but my dad stole that name for his hunting lab... i guess i had the norm questions seeing how ive owned huskies in the past and those were a lil stubborn but i got lucky they were awesome tell they got stolen.. so i got a dog no one would steal.:p any how just a few simple questions, the first 2 days are the hardest for him i think but hes come out of his shell.. I'm making leash training fun but he just lays down tell i get him excited.. with my huskies they were born leash ready they loved there leash like crack!! but i know his neck isn't strong so i don't tug AT ALL!! i just keep it on him when we go potty so he doesn't run away.. but i read a lil so there goes my question lol.. so for my first question is after he gets bigger and knows the immediate family will he be mean and protective to guest and strangers? also he will be 85% indoors 15% out doors cause i live in central California and its 97* out. but outside for playtime and exploring and training.. but is that good to keep him indoors with me a lot will he get to attached? i just don't want him to run away i have a huge back yard but other dogs get walked in front of my house which get dogs excited and if he gets bored i think hell run away or am i wrong?

sorry so long :)

david & magnumWOW, very interesting questions. The neck is definately to be considered one of the strongest part of a dobe and also one of the most vulnerable. An interesting choice of words regarding "huskies loving their leash like crack!!" MEAN!!!???Protective?? Why did you get this dog? Any particular venue in mind since you apparently are more in tune to huskies and their needs??? Putting a poorly trained doberman in the hands of an inexpierienced person is like placing a shot gun with a person wearing a blind! It appears as if by mention of your previous psots you may have neglected to really investigate of research the breed. Hopefully now is not to late!!

[Big Dogs]

David dobes are very smart, very sensitive and are a dog totally unlike your Huskies or your fathers gun dog. Not knowing how much you know about the breed here are a few of the high lights. Dobes unlike your huskies will take over your household if not given direction and leadership they are independent thinkers and will evaluate you constantly for your leadership if they decide you are not up to the task they will assume the role for you and then you have a problem. Dobes are natural guardians of there territory and what is there's, this is something you must have control over or your headed for big and I mean big problems. With a dobe you get what you put in, meaning if you put the time into training him he will learn things you never thought a dog could learn. I'f for some reason you think he needs to be mean and you would like him to be like that don't! He's a doberman 9 times out of 10 thats all it takes. Believe me I would rather make my living from obedience training dogs or protection training the right way than fixing someone else s disaster! Take him to obedience classes and socialize him and just enjoy him!

[Fez04]

HUSKIES are fun dogs really sweet but not very loyal, and so it hard to get them to do anything...mine would always escape, so for a while i considered the doberman.. loyal, protective and smart. That's what i was aiming for, Its not that i didn't do my research I'm just the type of person that thinks its better to be safe than sorry. i mean not every dobie is the same, so i called a local trainer he gave me some in site on the way dogs think. he said don't pull when first training on a leash there necks are still weak at 10 weeks, and there like wolves, there pack animals. he says the alpha male and alpha female sleep in the center while the others sleep outside of them.. so don't let your dobie sleep with you, hell put himself at the same level as me an alpha.. so that why i asked if it was safe. i called the trainer because yes we well do obedience, however i just want to make sure im off to a fresh start seeing how hes to young right now, and i don't wanna give him any bad habits. man you guys are awesome, thank you for all your responses.. i had another question separation anxiety, i want my doberman confident, and these last few nights hes been awesome no whining.. so i tested him i set him outside with the 2 lil dogs and he played all day outside.. he whined for a bit then stopped.. so i say he did good... however i bring him in and hes normal.. 4 hrs later we eat get ready for bed then he starts whining he wants on my bed, and i never let him sleep on my bed should i just leave him in there tell he stops crying and goes to bed.. or do i put him on the bed wait tell hes totally sleep'n then put him in so hes doesn't have an accident on my bed... THANKS ALL SORRY SO LONG AGAIN :D

[tidibole]

My dogs, 3 males, sleep with me every night, generally under the covers. One them insist putting his head on the pillow while he lays on his back with legs straight up. I have never considered myself a PACK leader or even Alpha for that matter. I think the term is over used and in many cases not understood correctly. If I ask something of the dog and he knows what I want and does not respond, then there are consequences. As BD mentioned dobes are smart and yes, even manipulative given the opportunity and generally should not be owned by the faint at heart nor by an individual who does no have an authoriative demeanor. Training is of the utmost importance, in any respect whether formal or just basic house manners. Respect in the training process is also vital to a well adjusted companion and will ultimately iniatiate the bond that your are seeking. I am "babysitting" for an 11 week old dobe puppy, sleeps on my bed every night, no accidents. Stays in the crate while I am working and does extremely well for the times left. I suggest that you NEVER take ALL the advice of ONE person, consider all that is said and then make an educated decision that is based on your life style.

[Fez04]

THANKS Tidibole i will definitely use this advise!! i caved in a let sleep with me after he pottied this morning he dug his nose in my neck and stayed.. it funny cause if i touch him when hes sleeping he moans like if he had a long hard day at work so i give him a lil massage he sounds so funny and licks his lips haha!!

[SnuzerDog]

Welcome Fez, sorry I'm a bit late on this... been working/traveling alot lately.:o

My $.02: first, I would remember that he is still just a puppy. So, the night-time whining thing needs to be dealt with in the same way as any dog (or baby, for that matter)- they have to learn to get over it. I would advise against bringing him to bed; instead, look into crate training- this is the perfect time to start. It might be cute now, but in short order that pupply will be ALOT bigger and still wanting to get in bed with you.:eek: There is plenty of advice available in books on dog training at your library or bookstore, too.

On separation anxiety, I believe this is something that humans inadvertently foster in their dogs by making a huge deal out of leaving. I crate my boy whenever I leave the house, and he comes running for it whenever I say, 'time for crate!' It's understood that's his personal space, or den, if you will. He has comfortable bedding, toys and space to get up and move around at will. So, no anxiety.

I do, personally, subscribe to the 'pack' behavioral school of thought, with all due respect to all other members here who feel differently. I have done my homework on this, as I tend to research things to death, and that is my personal conclusion. I have applied many of the techniques I have learned from authors/trainers/breeders who espouse this belief and found them to be right on target. I agree with Big Dogs earlier post, and also heartily suggest you learn all you can about 'positive training' techniques- basically, reward-based training. It's not about stuffing your dog with treats, there is a method to be understood. Clicker training, in particular, I found to be very effective.

I know it's super exciting, but keep your head on straight and become a student of the breed and dog behavior and a whole new world will open up to you!:)